Demo Reels on you tube
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NEWSSHOOTER3
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Ummm...
Ummm... not a bad idea. Might even want to try uploading them to b-roll.net/tv.
Ummm... not a bad idea. Might even want to try uploading them to b-roll.net/tv.
zac love
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I think that it is a good idea, but ideally I think that you need to be ready to send out a BetaSP tape, DVD, VHS or URL. If you want to show the quality of your work, then you need your work to be on a quality medium (I've always sent BetaSP whenever possible) and that isn't the case on youtube.
Additionally keep in mind that while in our position we need to be tech-savvy, many of the people who do the hiring don't use anything more than e-mail & voicemail. So sending them a link to your youtube username can just muck things up making sure that they don't see any of your work.
The flip side is that there are also people who never leave their computer, so to have your demo a click away is a bonus & gets your work watched before others.
I know first hand how expensive applying for jobs can be, but I think that if your resume package looks cheap you'll come across as not serious about new employment.
Bottom line is be ready w/ options, if you really want a job at one place & they want to see your work on MII, see if your current station has one of those decks collecting dust in the garage, then overnight the tape to their doorstep. Yeah it will be extra work & $$$, but no great job comes easily.
Additionally keep in mind that while in our position we need to be tech-savvy, many of the people who do the hiring don't use anything more than e-mail & voicemail. So sending them a link to your youtube username can just muck things up making sure that they don't see any of your work.
The flip side is that there are also people who never leave their computer, so to have your demo a click away is a bonus & gets your work watched before others.
I know first hand how expensive applying for jobs can be, but I think that if your resume package looks cheap you'll come across as not serious about new employment.
Bottom line is be ready w/ options, if you really want a job at one place & they want to see your work on MII, see if your current station has one of those decks collecting dust in the garage, then overnight the tape to their doorstep. Yeah it will be extra work & $$$, but no great job comes easily.
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jajack71
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Thank for the input
I was just thinking that since everything is moving towards the digital/ P2 format why not use the technology. As far as quality I was thinking it's decent enough that you can hear and see the stories. I know the old school way is probably favored but, why not try something new.
My deal with DVD's are they may work in your player but not everyone else's. I don't think my station even has anything BETA anymore. We got rid of all our DVC Pro gear over 8 months ago. Just trying to try a new way of showing my work.
I think a good strory shoot and edited properly will catch the attentin of my targeted audience. Thank for the feed back guys.
I was just thinking that since everything is moving towards the digital/ P2 format why not use the technology. As far as quality I was thinking it's decent enough that you can hear and see the stories. I know the old school way is probably favored but, why not try something new.
My deal with DVD's are they may work in your player but not everyone else's. I don't think my station even has anything BETA anymore. We got rid of all our DVC Pro gear over 8 months ago. Just trying to try a new way of showing my work.
I think a good strory shoot and edited properly will catch the attentin of my targeted audience. Thank for the feed back guys.
Run 'n' Get 'em
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I'd use Brightcove... http://www.brightcove.com ...higher quality video, customizable players that can be embedded into another webpage or a page on their site of just your stuff, and no "YouTUBE" watermark on your video (or any other kind, unless you put it on there)
Don't work for them, just love the service
Don't work for them, just love the service
FeedingFrenzy
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Please read the EULA on You Tube. You are GIVING them copyrights to your video for whatever reason they wish to use it. Most employers/stations aren't willing to give up copywritten material for free. Also, when you upload to You Tube, they keep the higher quality version(non compressed or compression you uploaded) in their off site archives, but to save cyberspace & bandwidth, they will only post the lower quality(very compressed) version. Nothing is really free!
Buck
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What? Believe it not, all of our managment know how to use the internets and video players.
DanHostler1985
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I used to have my reel on youtube but took it down because I was unhappy with the compressed quality that youtube applies to an already compressed file. Plus the conventional purpose that youtube normally serves isn't entirely something that's very relatable to prospective employers. By this I mean when you watch a video on youtube it also has links to some off the wall, wild stuff that some such is not really appropos for an employer to see, especially when they are considering hiring you for a job. I took the more standard route and got a website at www.danhostler.com , much easier and convenient to work with.
A comment I have about demo reels on youtube, alot of the reels I have seen mostly are montages. In my opinion, a montage isn't a reel. It dosen't actually show the capabilities of whoever shot it what they can do and how much broad thier talent is. I want to see actual pieces so I can tell how well they can compile and edit footage well enough that they can convey the idea coherently.
A comment I have about demo reels on youtube, alot of the reels I have seen mostly are montages. In my opinion, a montage isn't a reel. It dosen't actually show the capabilities of whoever shot it what they can do and how much broad thier talent is. I want to see actual pieces so I can tell how well they can compile and edit footage well enough that they can convey the idea coherently.
Chicago Dog
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While the YouTube use sounds like a good idea, you must keep in mind that the video ultimately belongs to the station. Transmitting their video without consent -- regardless of the medium -- will land you in hot water.
This normally doesn't involve the use of video for résumé tapes. Most assume the compilation of one's work to further themselves in the business is all part of the game.
However, I only know of one station (which is in Florida) that actually threatens action against employees who compile résumé tapes without making it known to the management team. Needless to say, not many people are happy there.
American lost in Canada
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Try http://www.vimeo.com/ Very happy with their service.
Chicago Dog
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Still not a good idea. See my previous post. Also, from Vimeo's Terms Of Service section:
YouTube's TOS:
YouTube takes it a step further. Not only are you required to have permission to post copyrighted material, but you're required to agree that YouTube gain licensing rights for whatever you post.
You cannot post the stories on services like YouTube or Vimeo unless you have specific permission to use those stories. If you don't have permission and use them anyway, you're opening the door to legal trouble.
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zac love
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Most companies look the otherway for resume tapes, so I'm curious as to if you'll actually be in hot water, or just warm water. One thing for sure is if I got a written request to take something down, I'd take it down asap.
Although I wonder if you post clips that were copied from the off-air signal if you have a little more wiggle room when it comes to fair use.
what is their policy on "Christmas tapes" to show the family?
well you are lucky to work w/ fully competent management. but the goal is to make sure your possible new management has an easy time veiwing your work.
Chicago Dog
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I'll take a guess on this one: if you're being paid by WXYZ, anything you shoot is their property, not yours. There's no wiggle room because nothing actually changes. They're paying you and, thusly, they make the rules.
what is their policy on "Christmas tapes" to show the family?
I would think a station wouldn't get that anal. Like I said before, I only know of one station in Florida that took use of its material to extremes.
The goal is to not get sued or fired in the process. You have to also think about the station to which you're sending the link. They might think it's a good idea, too. Most certainly, though, there are going to be people who go the other direction: those who are not going to think very highly of someone posting and transmitting property online that's not theirs.
Deaf and Blind
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punky cameraman
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i read an article about copyright law and your demo reel years ago and it
stated case law on the matter, i will look for it but i believe you are allowed
access to ALL of the material you created while employed by the copyright holder.
you can't sell the material, but you can distribute it for the purpose of gaining
employment and you don't have to get permission.
stations own everything you do for them but they CANNOT take away your claim
in creating the material.
punky
stated case law on the matter, i will look for it but i believe you are allowed
access to ALL of the material you created while employed by the copyright holder.
you can't sell the material, but you can distribute it for the purpose of gaining
employment and you don't have to get permission.
stations own everything you do for them but they CANNOT take away your claim
in creating the material.
punky