Lensmith
Member
I have to say, I was getting tired of the latest group of posers that have been popping up at B-Roll Online.
Posers. People who lie about their experience and abilities and pose as something they are not and/or never have been. Not that it's something new in this business. But lately here at B-Roll there seem to be more than our fair share of goof balls making wild claims and spreading false or misleading information about how to do the job. it's been giving me a sour taste in my mouth.
People who claim they've been in the business 20 years but don't know what is or isn't public property. People who, with all those years of claimed experience, somehow can't bring themselves to shoot a body bag at a crime scene. Quick to paint all unions with a wide brush even though they've never held a network job or worked in a union shop themselves. Thinking a network job is just like their Hooterville job.
The worst, to me, are those who create several i.d.s...then debate with themselves. Silly junk that is quite common at several other well known media message boards but, for some reason here at B-Roll Online, we've been able to avoid it...for the most part.
Yes, we've even had a long time fellow who loved to practice his creative writing skills. Changing i.d.s every year or two. Starting and then promoting a blog supposedly written by a young news photographer in a smaller market. Having conversations with himself. Then shrilly criticizing people if they dared to suggest the blog was based on a fake person. A silly waste of time and, to me, behavior which cheapened the quality Kev has hosted here.
I've seen B-Roll grow quite a bit over the years. In the early days there was no registration. Then the debate about whether to register members. Then the discussion about needing real names or to allow people to hide behind anonymous i.d.s. Yes, there are reasons for people to prefer "anonymous" when dealing with difficult, touchy situations in their real lives that might cause retribution if it was known they were discussing the situation in an internet forum. Many managers would not appreciate dirty laundry being aired here, or anywhere.
Now we have the PRO Forum. A place where names are required to participate. It makes me wonder if the rest of the B-Roll Online forum will become just an extention of the UNCENSORED section. More kids posing and lying for no other reason than their own entertainment at the expense of others.
I have decided to lay back a bit. Still visiting the other sections of B-Roll's forums from time to time but...when I see silly claims of malls being open to all who want to shoot video...I just shake my head. One example among several types of threads. Knowing misinformation will cause confusion to the uneducated and inexperienced. Not to mention hurting the reputation of B-Roll Online.
As some have mentioned before...we used to have a much higher participation from experienced people. People who have now chosen to limit or completely abandon any participation here due to the goof ball posers. A valuable resource which once made B-Roll Online better than...you know what I mean.
Please do not misunderstand. I'm all for having fun and even disagreeing strongly with others. What has bothered me lately are the prolific posters of late who have obvious little or no real world experience. Yet they want to puff themselves up with lies. Arguing just for the sake of arguing. With no real interest in doing anything other than tossing anonymous insults.
So...is this new forum going to be a place you'll visit more often? Or is it the beginning of the end of an educated exchange between people looking to learn and grow no matter how many years of experience they have?
Will you think about creating a second member i.d. here so you can have what some might consider the "best" of both worlds? A named membership and an un-named membership so you can join in on the playground bully behavior some prefer. Trading insults and lying about who you are and what you know?
It's been quite a few years since I visited or posted on some of the other well known media forums. Too full of fakes. It's THE reason I prefer B-Roll Online. A classier place where we can still disagree but...not to the extent of the insanity which exists elsewhere.
Thank you Kev for, once again, making every effort to accommodate as many of us as possible. Maintaining a higher level of discourse and making this a positive place for people to visit and learn.
Posers. People who lie about their experience and abilities and pose as something they are not and/or never have been. Not that it's something new in this business. But lately here at B-Roll there seem to be more than our fair share of goof balls making wild claims and spreading false or misleading information about how to do the job. it's been giving me a sour taste in my mouth.
People who claim they've been in the business 20 years but don't know what is or isn't public property. People who, with all those years of claimed experience, somehow can't bring themselves to shoot a body bag at a crime scene. Quick to paint all unions with a wide brush even though they've never held a network job or worked in a union shop themselves. Thinking a network job is just like their Hooterville job.
The worst, to me, are those who create several i.d.s...then debate with themselves. Silly junk that is quite common at several other well known media message boards but, for some reason here at B-Roll Online, we've been able to avoid it...for the most part.
Yes, we've even had a long time fellow who loved to practice his creative writing skills. Changing i.d.s every year or two. Starting and then promoting a blog supposedly written by a young news photographer in a smaller market. Having conversations with himself. Then shrilly criticizing people if they dared to suggest the blog was based on a fake person. A silly waste of time and, to me, behavior which cheapened the quality Kev has hosted here.
I've seen B-Roll grow quite a bit over the years. In the early days there was no registration. Then the debate about whether to register members. Then the discussion about needing real names or to allow people to hide behind anonymous i.d.s. Yes, there are reasons for people to prefer "anonymous" when dealing with difficult, touchy situations in their real lives that might cause retribution if it was known they were discussing the situation in an internet forum. Many managers would not appreciate dirty laundry being aired here, or anywhere.
Now we have the PRO Forum. A place where names are required to participate. It makes me wonder if the rest of the B-Roll Online forum will become just an extention of the UNCENSORED section. More kids posing and lying for no other reason than their own entertainment at the expense of others.
I have decided to lay back a bit. Still visiting the other sections of B-Roll's forums from time to time but...when I see silly claims of malls being open to all who want to shoot video...I just shake my head. One example among several types of threads. Knowing misinformation will cause confusion to the uneducated and inexperienced. Not to mention hurting the reputation of B-Roll Online.
As some have mentioned before...we used to have a much higher participation from experienced people. People who have now chosen to limit or completely abandon any participation here due to the goof ball posers. A valuable resource which once made B-Roll Online better than...you know what I mean.
Please do not misunderstand. I'm all for having fun and even disagreeing strongly with others. What has bothered me lately are the prolific posters of late who have obvious little or no real world experience. Yet they want to puff themselves up with lies. Arguing just for the sake of arguing. With no real interest in doing anything other than tossing anonymous insults.
So...is this new forum going to be a place you'll visit more often? Or is it the beginning of the end of an educated exchange between people looking to learn and grow no matter how many years of experience they have?
Will you think about creating a second member i.d. here so you can have what some might consider the "best" of both worlds? A named membership and an un-named membership so you can join in on the playground bully behavior some prefer. Trading insults and lying about who you are and what you know?
It's been quite a few years since I visited or posted on some of the other well known media forums. Too full of fakes. It's THE reason I prefer B-Roll Online. A classier place where we can still disagree but...not to the extent of the insanity which exists elsewhere.
Thank you Kev for, once again, making every effort to accommodate as many of us as possible. Maintaining a higher level of discourse and making this a positive place for people to visit and learn.
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