Panasonic AJ-D200

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I'm just looking for the dirt on these...I was looking at a used one, and it sparked my curiosity. Good or bad, I'd like to hear it. Thanks.

Ivan, I'd especially like to read your opinion.

[ March 15, 2005, 03:27 PM: Message edited by: Seagate News ]
 
I used one long ago as a young photographer. It could be a good camera for shooting weddings or as a backup but I would not recommend it for daily news. It is tough to white balance and has no filter wheel. You will need filters to put on the lens outdoors when it is sunny. The camera also does not give you the ability to manually adjust audio.

As a prosumer cam, I like it. But for the grind of daily news, no way.
 
The skinny is it looks like a pro-cam but as indicated, no ND filters at all (first clue) - 1/3 inch chips (like those in the tiny cams we all love - 2nd clue)- Does use DVCPro media which is robust but alot more expensive than Mini-DV tapes (something for you to consider also-I don't know if the 200D will shoot on straight DV though)... Will use the standard Anton Bauer trimpac-type batts also, but again, those suckers cost $$$...It'll make you look like a shooter but it won't necessarily give you the best performance...

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You'd indicated awhile back you were going to go with a Sony...Did you get one?
 
Not yet, I'm getting close and I saw this camera so I figured I'd ask for some opinons. I shoot primarily for DVCPro stations and dubbing over in a breaking news situation can be a pain...

Guess I'll go with the Sony in the end...
 
I shoot primarily for DVCPro stations and dubbing over in a breaking news situation can be a pain...
Not really... I shoot in a market that uses primarily DVCPRO and BetaSX...If you do in fact go with something like a VX2100, you only need to make sure you have an RCA female to BNC male connector for your video output and an RCA female to XLR male for your audio...usually 1 channel of audio is all they're going to want-you simply hook those connectors to your cheesy RCA cable coming from your outputs...with those two connectors you can plug into any remote truck and feed tape from the camera...It's a just a matter of the truck operator punching up the lines that are bringing your stuff in...It shouldn't be any different in your neck of the woods!

[ March 15, 2005, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: RichVid ]
 
Well, it has been in the past...the adapters don't work right half the time, and we have to use a deck with no monitor to dub at the station...

I'll be buying my own adapter, instead, though...save myself the trouble.
 
Most of the problems I usually run into have to deal with audio...balanced vs. unbalanced and all that (my audio is unbalanced)...Sometimes it plays totally hot and unusable at which point the truck operator will place a filter on my output prior to plugging it into the truck...video always seems to be ok...
 
Hi Seagate.

I'm sorry I'm not familiar with this camera. I know of the Pany AG-DVC200, a 1/2 ccd with 2000L @ F11 and that camera is in the class of the JVC DV500.

The others gave you the negatives of the AJ-D200 , I will give you the positives.

1))) DVCpro = more robust format then DV or even DVcam. DVCpro uses MP tape and has the widest fastest track.

2))) Looks like a fully manual lens. = you will have more precise control over your shooting.

3))) Shoulder cam = you will be more comfortable, steadier and it will be easier on your body.

4))) looks like it uses balanced audio (although not sure) if so, balanced audio will give you better performance if you're running long lines AE shooting corporate stuff like bar bands.

The only advise I can give you is to try one out if you can and see how you like it. Remember, even if the quality is only as good as a 1/3 inch handycam -- the ease of use (shoulder mount with manual operation) will allow you to make better pictures.

Good luck Barret. I bow to you for accomplishing more then most of us have done at your age. :cool:

PS
Sony is replacing their DVcam 390 with a 2/3 inch DVcam (400/450 series) If you can get a deal on a used 300, 370 or 390 for a screaming deal - check it out...
 
Seagate, DVCPRO decks will play miniDV tapes with an adapter (that's quite $$ and fragile.) What happens is the deck uses its record heads to play back miniDV. This is because DVCPRO playback uses a wider track pitch (each "swipe" of the heads is wider) than DVCAM and DV.

Playing back DV tapes in a DVCPRO deck sometimes gets iffy as you're mixing ME (metal evaporated) tape with DVCPRO's MP (metal particle) tape, so bring along a tape cleaner so as not to bother the station engineers (and mostly likely whoever's doing the dubs ain't gonna know this) as you watch a head clog while dubbing.

There are some decks (maybe all, but I'm sure the old D450 had this) where you need to go into the menu and set the playback to "DV" or else you'll get the fast-playback you're talking about. There should be three options - DVCPRO, DVCAM and DV.

The D200 uses DVCPRO-L size cassettes, which are mighty expensive. Other DVCPRO cameras use "M" sized cassettes that have a max 63min load, but cheaper. While the L cassettes are physically the same as large DV tapes, it's not recommended as DVCPRO uses MP tapes and DVCAM and DV are ME tapes.

And no, you can't stick a miniDV tape in any DVCPRO camcorder, even with the miniDV adaptor. That being said, you can't record onto miniDV tapes in a DVCPRO deck with the adaptor either. Dunno why not, probably like how Sony's flagship DSR-2000 plays back everything but only records DVCAM.

All that being said, like Ivan said above, DVCPRO tapes are tanks. They stand up to much more than DV or DVCAM tapes.

When you use the DVCPRO miniDV adapter, take the labels off the tape, especially the spine label as they sometimes come off. I ended up using Avery permanent return address labels (you get 80/sheet) laser printed with my name, number and contact in 6-point type to leave some space for me to write something on the label.

Optics:
The stock Fuji 14x lens is fully manual, which will give you the experience you need when you get another broadcast camera. The Fuji is pretty much the bottom-of-the-barrel when it comes to broadcast lens quality. And I don't know of any 1/3" lenses that could replace this. That being said, the lens is much better than any consumer lens out there.

Filter diameter is 62mm, so it's on the end of the Cokin "A" series filters... a much cheaper "matte-box" if you wish... there's lots of plastic filters available. You can get a whole system for the price of one 4x4 filter. You can get very respectable pictures with the Cokin stuff. Lets you get creative with graduated NDs, etc.

Batteries:
While you'll be using Anton/Bauer bricks, they're a bit more expensive than the old NP-1 system... used NP-1s are aplenty - a station engineer might even have some still in storage that they'd be happy to give to you. Maybe even an NP-1 box too that directly replaces the A/B plate on the back of the camera. Maybe trade one hotshot for a few batts and a box or charger. It would be a win-win situation. :) I have two personal Sony BC-1WD chargers that I can't over three-digits for anymore, they're just sitting in my drawer now as backup when I need a kicker 12v light, I can just slap an NP-1 and instant 12v source...

Older NiCad bricks and chargers are readily available on the used market, which softens the blow a bit. One of the old Lifesaver chargers should do, you don't need a Logic or Titan charger. Those run a pretty penny.

Audio:
Yup. Two balanced audio inputs at the back, but no LCD on the back to monitor timecode/audiolevels/battery. Everything is in the viewfinder. I don't think the D200 has the 5pin audio out (maybe a summed-mono 3pin XLR). The 5pin has balanced stereo-out. Pricey cable to even make yourself, since a Neutrik 5pin XLR is costly.

I do believe theres two audio pots at the back of the camera. There's just no outboard LCD - you gotta use the viewfinder to watch all of the camera functions, TC, audio, etc.

[ March 16, 2005, 01:36 AM: Message edited by: phillypulse ]
 
For a starter camera, I think it might be a good choice. At least it's shoulder mounted and has a real lens. I am concerned about what kind of shape it's in now. That's a pretty old model. I understand the temptation, but unless you're positive it's in great condition, I'd stick with the VX.

Also, don't forget that the batteries and charger are going to be more expensive. Make sure any batteries that come with it actually still work! Plus you're going to need a beefy tripod...
 
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