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Old 12-07-2004, 11:16 AM
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Saw this on another site and I found it useful during salary negotiations...would be good to try it with just us photogs since the market info table can be a little vague.
....I'll start

25-30 market (2 yrs experience)
44,000 + 4000 in ot
m-f take home gear
4 weeks & 3 days of vacation
health benefits and 401k
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:56 AM
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Looks like stations are finally starting to wise up. Maybe they found out you get what you pay for.

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Old 12-07-2004, 12:13 PM
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3.5 yrs exp. Mkt 156, $8.00phr with a possible raise in the near future=27k per yr.= m-f-60hr wk wks.
take home gear. health-401k-no sick days-accumilate 1wk va every yr.

I am ready for a move.
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:34 PM
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7 years experience, market between 60-70, M-F dayside, with overtime around $30 a year.

I can't wait to get a real job.
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:37 PM
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MRKT. 171, $7.25 per hr. Crappy gear, crappy, vehicles. Looking to move to law enforcement or a larger mrkt.
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:46 PM
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You know...while the quick bite info may look interesting it misses some basics.

There are several states which don't charge an income tax.

There are places with either very high or very low costs of living.

Just saying a market size doesn't put the important information in context until you add in all the other expences.

Take home gear is a fine term but it doesn't really tell someone the quality of said gear.

Years of experience is another term which doens't always explain a persons true level of ability.

I've known people who couldn't hold a job for more than a year but they've had six and seven jobs!

It's fun to read the info none the less.
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:58 PM
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Lensmith, I think what they are refering to
when they are saying take home gear is the benefit
of the vehicle back and forth rather than supplying
their own car or transportation. When I use to work local, that was a real perk and you got that by
moving up the seniority ladder.
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Old 12-07-2004, 01:07 PM
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Lensmith makes a great point about putting the info in context, so I'll try.

Market 37
Sat Truck Op/Photog
No State Income Tax
Reasonable cost of living
circa 30K + OT

Take home car and gear-6 year old SUV, but next month I move up to a 3-5 year old SUV, excellent condition Sony 300a SP, with 2 wireless mics, wide converter, ME66 shotgun and RE 50 mics. (Everyone else here has Sony DNW 9WS SX Cameras, but I don't shoot full time) All the lights and grip equipment I asked for. PortaBrace bags to carry it all. In short, to address Lensmith's questions, excellent gear.

2 weeks vacation
401k,pension, employee stock purchase.
Insurance

27 years experience (except for a few years out of the business, so 23 total working years), at this station 2 years, after 1 year in market 161 when I got back in the biz.

My last station, $8.00/hr, pooled gear, virtually no OT, fair insurance plan (at least better than the station across town)
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by &lt;Baron Von Munchausen&gt;:
Saw this on another site and I found it useful during salary negotiations...would be good to try it with just us photogs since the market info table can be a little vague.
....I'll start

25-30 market (2 yrs experience)
44,000 + 4000 in ot
m-f take home gear
4 weeks & 3 days of vacation
health benefits and 401k
I've got 5 years exp. What market are yo in? sign me up. Where sis you work before that.


My stats,

5 years exp
Market 60
low cost of living
high taxes almost 10%
take home gear
31k with 10k ot
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:25 PM
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NBC @ Los Angeles, NY, DC, Chi.
base $73,000 & about $15-20,000+ in OT and penalties.

Too bad you guys @ NBC in SF & Miami are not on the same payscale. You could be, if you wanted to.
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:53 PM
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NBC @ Los Angeles, NY, DC, Chi.
base $73,000 & about $15-20,000+ in OT and penalties.
Yeah, but in LA gas is $2.60 a gallon, houses go for $250-300K and if you're the renting type, be ready to spend $1500 a month for a freaking studio apartment. Or you can live in the Antelope Valley and drive 3 hours each way to work...no thanks. Smokes go for $5 a pack (for a generic brand). You get gouged everywhere, the taxes are sky high and if the stress of sitting in perpetual traffic doesn't kill you the smog will.

Don't even get me started on DC or NY. $70K in New York is like $40K anywhere else. Screw that!
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Old 12-07-2004, 04:09 PM
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Umm where I fill up gas is 2.09...that's not to say next week it'll be 2.30+...Good studios go for about $800+...But your house price estimates are low...I'd say they average 400K and go higher very quickly...250-300K will put you in Huntington Park or Norwalk or East LA...
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Old 12-07-2004, 04:14 PM
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Here's a cost of living calculator to help you figure out the salary differences.

http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html
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Old 12-07-2004, 06:19 PM
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50's Market
4 years experience
$36,000 + around $10,000 OT per year (give or take about $3k)
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Old 12-07-2004, 07:02 PM
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50's market
8 years experience
$62,000 gross last year
average home cost- $250,000
average rent- $600+
nice take home gear and car

It's enough to cover the basics, but vacations usually don't make it more than a days drive away and there's no new personal car in my future.
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Old 12-07-2004, 07:04 PM
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50's Market
4 years experience
$36,000 + around $10,000 OT per year (give or take about $3k)
Wow! I am amazed...for a 50's Market...Fresno? thats the only 50's market I can see the cost of living reflecting that salary. Is it union?
Im in an upper 50's market, 5yrs experience, $26K base, + $5K OT, SX gear, 2 Sony wireless, shotgun, nice light kit, new car. Tons of taxes, but low cost of living, starter homes in decent neighborhoods from $130K-$185K
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:40 PM
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mid 30's market
10 years experience
a handfull of awards
take home car and gear
cheap living expenses
401 k
great insurance
$30k plus up to 10k in OT

always looking for the next best thing
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Old 12-08-2004, 12:41 AM
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Market #7 with 8 yrs shooting, 50k plus ot.
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Old 12-08-2004, 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by &lt;LA 4&gt;:
NBC @ Los Angeles, NY, DC, Chi.
base $73,000 & about $15-20,000+ in OT and penalties.

Too bad you guys @ NBC in SF & Miami are not on the same payscale. You could be, if you wanted to.
We, the non-union guys in S.F. are now only 4k under your base in L.A. I make the same ot you make easily & our benefits are competitive, but we don't pay union dues. I'm not going to argue that we have it better or that you have it better, these are just the facts. The ABC union guys here have a higher base than you.
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Old 12-08-2004, 12:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by &lt;LA 4&gt;:
NBC @ Los Angeles, NY, DC, Chi.
base $73,000 & about $15-20,000+ in OT and penalties.

Too bad you guys @ NBC in SF & Miami are not on the same payscale. You could be, if you wanted to.
We, the non-union guys are now only 4k under your base in L.A. I make the same ot you make easily & our benefits are competitive, but we don't pay union dues. I'm not going to argue that we have it better or that you have it better, these are just the facts. The ABC union guys here have a higher base than you.
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