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Old 02-08-2007, 11:30 AM
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With an accomplice ( mall PR ).
I think the photog did a very good job and I hope his arm injury isn't too bad. And maybe he can invite us all over for a drink when he shows us his new car!!
Sounds like the station is going about it the right way too.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:37 AM
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Why the hell does every cop seem to think a TV crew is NOT allowed to get footage of them? Like they're undercover CIA operatives or something.

More proof that you give someone a badge and a gun and they think they're God.

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Old 02-08-2007, 11:40 AM
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WOW!!! - That is just BS. I hope somthing happens to the cops involved. The Photog had permision to be there and that is it... period!!
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Yikes!

Why does this KEEP HAPPENING?

This example of police brutality only strengthens my contempt for jacktard officers!

We should all be reminded to KEEP ROLLING!! This photog did a great job ensuring his settlement will be $pectacular!

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I work with Craig at WKYC. I understand that he's ok. Don't have any idea of what the plans are if any on filing a complaint or anything else. If I hear anything, I'll update you all.

Cop was a comlplete douchebag.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:56 PM
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Photog: "One of your police officers just assaulted me."

Mall Manager: "No he didn't."

Priceless.
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I wonder how long until Chicagodog comes on here and defends the pigs!
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Cha-CHING!!
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Cha-CHING!!
The cop was in the wrong and needs to be punished, but this does not meen the Photog will get rich. Just because you were assulted does not equal winning the lotto. He must have serious injuries to get any money and it does not seem like he does.

We need to focus on the wrong doings of the cop, and how we can educate cops.

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We need to focus on the wrong doings of the cop, and how we can educate cops.
We can educate them by suing them.

In my experience, cops generally are not interested in an education in this area, because what they learn runs counter to what they WANT to be true. They WANT to be able to tell a photog to turn off his camera. They DON'T want to recognize that they don't have that authority.

Just as you won't teach a kid in school algebra if he's hell bent on stopping his ears and refusing to learn it, you won't teach cops anything they don't want to learn. You have to make them learn it, by making their understanding of it part of the conditions for keeping their jobs. While they still may not like it, if they understand that they'll likely get reprimanded if they cost the city thousands of dollars, they may think twice before wrenching a camera from a guy's shoulder or smacking somebody's lens.
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He must have serious injuries to get any money and it does not seem like he does.
There's emotional injuries. If he sees or encounters that cop or any other cop again, who knows what might happen to this guy's psyche...he might be afraid of all cops from now on. What's to stop the cop's buddies from pulling the guy over in his private car and hasseling him or giving him a ticket for no reason at all or worse - the cop shoots this guy dead and plants a gun in this guy's hand. Think it can't happen? Watch the movie "An Innocent Man", sure the movie is fiction, but I'll bet something like that has happened before.

I don't think you'll need serious physical injuries, emotional damage can be just as tramatic.

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Fawkin' A, Warren.
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I wonder how long until Chicagodog comes on here and defends the pigs!
Wow....is it still the 1960's in your world?
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Wow....is it still the 1960's in your world?
Just a joke, man.
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Just a joke, man.
Obviously, it wasn't a very good one. Let me guess -- you were a young, inexperienced shooter who had the same kind of run-in?

There's no excusing what that officer did. Instead of listening to what was going on, he took it upon himself to hide the insanity of the sales providing consumers with incredible, crazy savings!

After that initial post, though, you might want to consider reregistering a new name and start with a clean slate.
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After that initial post, though, you might want to consider reregistering a new name and start with a clean slate.
Why? All he did was take a jab at you. That's certainly no big deal.
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That's certainly no big deal.
Oh, I get it. No big deal -- exactly like your off-topic responses! Yes, I agree.

Yawn.

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In my experience, cops generally are not interested in an education in this area, because what they learn runs counter to what they WANT to be true. They WANT to be able to tell a photog to turn off his camera. They DON'T want to recognize that they don't have that authority.
I've never had that problem with cops. Save a few that've really helped us out on scenes, I leave them to their business, they leave me to mine.

In your case, it doesn't sound like it's the cops who need the classes. Why are you so intent on claiming each and every cop is intent on making your professional life as difficult as possible? Could it be your stellar attitude?
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...an off-duty Cleveland police officer acting like a rookie Rent A Cop. What is it about shoppping malls that sends certain law enforcement types into a lens-hating frenzy? Is it the brackish lighting? The snotty Goth kids? Those haughty mannequins? Whatever the cause, something is overstimulating sworn officers to the point of parody.
Here's hoping the city of Cleveland will educate the uniformed goon in question as to where his jurisdiction ends and his inexcusable boorishness begins. Schmuck...
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There's emotional injuries. If he sees or encounters that cop or any other cop again, who knows what might happen to this guy's psyche...he might be afraid of all cops from now on. What's to stop the cop's buddies from pulling the guy over in his private car and hasseling him or giving him a ticket for no reason at all or worse - the cop shoots this guy dead and plants a gun in this guy's hand. Think it can't happen? Watch the movie "An Innocent Man", sure the movie is fiction, but I'll bet something like that has happened before.

I don't think you'll need serious physical injuries, emotional damage can be just as tramatic.

Warren

All I am saying is you don’t get much in the line of emotional suffering. Take it from a person who is in the mist of a lawsuit involving traumatic and permanent injuries. Judges will not award much if anything to a person claiming emotional injuries.

A lawsuit may teach the cop a lesson but that’s all it will do.
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In your case, it doesn't sound like it's the cops who need the classes. Why are you so intent on claiming each and every cop is intent on making your professional life as difficult as possible? Could it be your stellar attitude?
And that is on topic...

The station should be able to sue the department for damages against the camera. The photog could try but with apparent minor injuries might not be worth it.
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