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Old 02-08-2007, 11:30 AM
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With an accomplice ( mall PR ).
I think the photog did a very good job and I hope his arm injury isn't too bad. And maybe he can invite us all over for a drink when he shows us his new car!!
Sounds like the station is going about it the right way too.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:37 AM
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Why the hell does every cop seem to think a TV crew is NOT allowed to get footage of them? Like they're undercover CIA operatives or something.

More proof that you give someone a badge and a gun and they think they're God.

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Old 02-08-2007, 11:40 AM
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WOW!!! - That is just BS. I hope somthing happens to the cops involved. The Photog had permision to be there and that is it... period!!
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Yikes!

Why does this KEEP HAPPENING?

This example of police brutality only strengthens my contempt for jacktard officers!

We should all be reminded to KEEP ROLLING!! This photog did a great job ensuring his settlement will be $pectacular!

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Old 02-08-2007, 12:15 PM
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I work with Craig at WKYC. I understand that he's ok. Don't have any idea of what the plans are if any on filing a complaint or anything else. If I hear anything, I'll update you all.

Cop was a comlplete douchebag.
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Old 02-09-2007, 01:52 PM
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Yikes!

Why does this KEEP HAPPENING?

This example of police brutality only strengthens my contempt for jacktard officers!

We should all be reminded to KEEP ROLLING!! This photog did a great job ensuring his settlement will be $pectacular!
Why does this continue happening ? Point blank because in the end after all is said and done, television station management just wants to make nice and refuses to follow through. If station management refuses to go the distance then they are complicit with the assaulting officer and are putting you in a dangerous situation. If injured you should sue both the police dept, and station management if they refuse to defend you in a civil case against the city and the officer. I know what you'll say, I need the gig. THAT in and of itself is the reason things don't get done. When station management backs up the photographers and takes this to court, the waves of judgements from these cases will cause the action to begin to stop. Do nothing, get nothing. I hope the photographer takes the bastard to the cleaners. NEVER back down and KEEP ROLLING. GOOD JOB.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:56 PM
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Photog: "One of your police officers just assaulted me."

Mall Manager: "No he didn't."

Priceless.
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I wonder how long until Chicagodog comes on here and defends the pigs!
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Cha-CHING!!
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Cha-CHING!!
The cop was in the wrong and needs to be punished, but this does not meen the Photog will get rich. Just because you were assulted does not equal winning the lotto. He must have serious injuries to get any money and it does not seem like he does.

We need to focus on the wrong doings of the cop, and how we can educate cops.

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We need to focus on the wrong doings of the cop, and how we can educate cops.
We can educate them by suing them.

In my experience, cops generally are not interested in an education in this area, because what they learn runs counter to what they WANT to be true. They WANT to be able to tell a photog to turn off his camera. They DON'T want to recognize that they don't have that authority.

Just as you won't teach a kid in school algebra if he's hell bent on stopping his ears and refusing to learn it, you won't teach cops anything they don't want to learn. You have to make them learn it, by making their understanding of it part of the conditions for keeping their jobs. While they still may not like it, if they understand that they'll likely get reprimanded if they cost the city thousands of dollars, they may think twice before wrenching a camera from a guy's shoulder or smacking somebody's lens.
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He must have serious injuries to get any money and it does not seem like he does.
There's emotional injuries. If he sees or encounters that cop or any other cop again, who knows what might happen to this guy's psyche...he might be afraid of all cops from now on. What's to stop the cop's buddies from pulling the guy over in his private car and hasseling him or giving him a ticket for no reason at all or worse - the cop shoots this guy dead and plants a gun in this guy's hand. Think it can't happen? Watch the movie "An Innocent Man", sure the movie is fiction, but I'll bet something like that has happened before.

I don't think you'll need serious physical injuries, emotional damage can be just as tramatic.

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There's emotional injuries. If he sees or encounters that cop or any other cop again, who knows what might happen to this guy's psyche...he might be afraid of all cops from now on. What's to stop the cop's buddies from pulling the guy over in his private car and hasseling him or giving him a ticket for no reason at all or worse - the cop shoots this guy dead and plants a gun in this guy's hand. Think it can't happen? Watch the movie "An Innocent Man", sure the movie is fiction, but I'll bet something like that has happened before.

I don't think you'll need serious physical injuries, emotional damage can be just as tramatic.

Warren

All I am saying is you don’t get much in the line of emotional suffering. Take it from a person who is in the mist of a lawsuit involving traumatic and permanent injuries. Judges will not award much if anything to a person claiming emotional injuries.

A lawsuit may teach the cop a lesson but that’s all it will do.
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I wonder how long until Chicagodog comes on here and defends the pigs!
Wow....is it still the 1960's in your world?
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Wow....is it still the 1960's in your world?
Just a joke, man.
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Just a joke, man.
Obviously, it wasn't a very good one. Let me guess -- you were a young, inexperienced shooter who had the same kind of run-in?

There's no excusing what that officer did. Instead of listening to what was going on, he took it upon himself to hide the insanity of the sales providing consumers with incredible, crazy savings!

After that initial post, though, you might want to consider reregistering a new name and start with a clean slate.
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After that initial post, though, you might want to consider reregistering a new name and start with a clean slate.
Why? All he did was take a jab at you. That's certainly no big deal.
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I think everyone agrees that the cop AND the sales manager were in the wrong. (I'm surprised how long it took to ask her to take her hand off the camera, but love the "assult-no he didn't" line. Cold-Open ka-ching!)

one thing I noticed is that the PD sat down for an interview (which didn't have anything substantial in it) before the store could even write a 1-paragraph statement.

that is more than some Police Departments I've had to work with.

to everyone here saying "teach the cops a lesson!!!", I hope you don't take that attitude w/ you to work. b/c I've found if you have a problem w/ cops, you're going to have problems w/ cops.

there are the Jerks-w/-a-badge out there. but most cops I've run into while working mind their own business if I mind mine. & there are a few who will give you a mile if you give them an inch.

overall I think it depends a LOT on the department & the way their train their officers. city to city you get treated very differently.

I just wanted to make sure as journalists we we're stereotyping all cops to be power hungry hippos w/o a brain.
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I think everyone agrees that the cop AND the sales manager were in the wrong. (I'm surprised how long it took to ask her to take her hand off the camera, but love the "assult-no he didn't" line. Cold-Open ka-ching!)
Wasn't a sales manager that grabber the camera. It was a Mall PR person..

Another reason to dislike PR hacks...
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