9/11: Follow the Money

[svp]

Please watch and listen before drawing conclusions.

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=United+Flight+77&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&qp_p=united+flight+77&b=10&oid=29f35dc96bd10978&rurl=www.ifilm.com&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fvideo%2Fsearc h%3Fp%3DUnited%2BFlight%2B77%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3D mss%26ei%3DUTF-8%26qp_p%3Dunited%2Bflight%2B77%26b%3D11&qp_p=united+flight+77

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They forgot to mention that Cancer was in the 2nd House of Aquariuos in September. Bush was born in July - the 7th month, making him a Cancer. September is the 9th month. 9 - 7 = 2 ... The 2nd House of Aquarious. 9 + 2 = 11, the date in Sept. of the attack.... It's all circular, and so EASY to see....


So, obviously Bush is responsible for the 9/11 attacks, right? I mean, how can you even THINK about arguing with Astrological proof like THAT??????







Seriously though.... You know what fascinates - I mean absolutely FASCINATES me? These Leftist conspiracy nuts have the most amazing dichotomy about Bush I've ever seen.

On one hand, they accuse him of being the dumbest man that has ever lived, yet in the very next breath, they'll pronounce him responsible for masterminding (successfully) the most elaborate and well planned conspiracy in history.

How IS that?

[Nooze Hound]

It's like an SNL skit I saw a while ago.

It was about Ronald Regan. At the beginning he was acting dumb greeting the press, then when they left the room a map came out of the wall, the advisors came and and he was all business planning strategies, then he acted all dumb again when a little girl came in for a picture. Then when they left he was all serious business.

[McFly]

Seriously though.... You know what fascinates - I mean absolutely FASCINATES me? These Leftist conspiracy nuts have the most amazing dichotomy about Bush I've ever seen.

On one hand, they accuse him of being the dumbest man that has ever lived, yet in the very next breath, they'll pronounce him responsible for masterminding (successfully) the most elaborate and well planned conspiracy in history.

How IS that?

EXCELLENT point.

[EditOne]

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

[Tapeape]

EXCELLENT point.

Excellent except for one small thing - he's lumping those of us who think Bush is an idiot in the same group as the whackjobs that think he's both an idiot and masterminded 9/11. Most of us just think he's an idiot, and shouldn't be in the same group as the nuts.

[pre-set]

Yep, guilty... I DO lump all you guys in the same pile....



Oh well.....

[McQueen]

If you think this guys done, (or dead) his ideaology will continue on, from the Clinton era ,thru Bush and beyond(maybe back to Clinton again! Yikes!! ) UBL had a lot of money and didn't need a piddly $100k to make his plots happen. Follow his money trail. Read up and enjoy.

Jihad in Afghanistan

Bin Laden's wealth and connections assisted his interest in supporting the mujahideen, Muslim guerrillas fighting the Soviet Union in Afghanistan following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. His old teacher from the university in Jeddah, Abdullah Azzam, had relocated to Peshawar, a major border city of a million people in the North-West Frontier Province of Pakistan. From there, Azzam was able to organize resistance directly on the Afghan frontier. Peshawar is only 15 km east of the historic Khyber Pass, through the Safed Koh mountains, connected to the southeastern edge of the Hindu Kush range. This route became the major avenue of inserting foreign fighters and material support into eastern Afghanistan for the resistance against the Soviets, and also in later years.

After leaving college in 1979 bin Laden joined Azzam to fight the Soviet Invasion and lived for a time in Peshawar. According to Rahimullah Yusufzai, executive editor of the English-language daily The News International in 2001 "Azam prevailed on him to come and use his money" for training recruits, reported Yusufzai. In the early 1980s, bin Laden lived at several addresses in and around Arbab Road, a narrow street in the University Town neighborhood in western Peshawar, Yusufzai said. Nearby in Gulshan Iqbal Road is the Arab mosque that Abdullah Azzam used as the jihad center, according to a Reuters inquiry in the neighborhood. Years later, in 1989, Azzam was blown up in a massive car bombing outside the mosque. Bin Laden is thought by some to be a suspect in that assassination, because of a rift in the direction of the jihad at that time. Others doubt this claim; Ahmad Zaidan, for instance, author of the Arabic-language book Bin Laden Unmasked, told Peter L. Bergen in an interview, "I rule out totally that bin Laden would indulge himself in such things, after all, Osama bin Laden, he's not type of person to kill Abdullah Azzam. Otherwise, if he be exposed, he would be finished, totally." Bergen also cites Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who speculates that there were more likely candidates than bin Laden: "It could be Hekmatyar, it could be KHAD, it could be the Mossad, the Egyptians [around Ayman al Zawahiri].... I met with Hekmatyar, an arrogant, self-centered person. I think Hekmatyar had a secret organization to eliminate his enemies."

By 1984, with Azzam, bin Laden had established an organization named Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK, Office of Order in English), which funneled money, arms and Muslim fighters from around the world into the Afghan war. Through al-Khadamat, bin Laden's inherited family fortune paid for air tickets and accommodation, dealt with paperwork with Pakistani authorities and provided other such services for the jihad fighters. In running al-Khadamat, bin Laden set up a network of couriers traveling between Afghanistan and Peshawar, which continued to remain active after 2001, according to Yusufzai.

Robin Cook, former leader of the British House of Commons and Foreign Secretary from 1997-2001, wrote in The Guardian on Friday, July 8, 2005,

“ Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.[38] ”

However, Peter Bergen, a CNN journalist and adjunct professor who is known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997, refuted Cook's notion, stating on August 15, 2006, the following:

“ The story about bin Laden and the CIA -- that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden -- is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently.
The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him. ”

After Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, bin Laden offered to help defend Saudi Arabia (with 12,000 armed men) but was rebuffed .Bin Laden publicly denounced his government's dependence on the U.S. military and demanded an end to the presence of foreign military bases in the country. According to reports , the 1990/91 deployment of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia in connection with the Gulf War upset Muslims because the Saudi government claims legitimacy based on their role as guardians of the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Medina. After the Gulf War cease-fire agreement left Saddam Hussein remaining in power in Iraq, the ongoing presence of long-term bases for non-Muslim U.S. forces in Saudi Arabia continued to undermine the Saudi rulers' perceived legitimacy and inflamed anti-government Islamist militants, including bin Laden.

Assisted by donations funneled through business and charitable fronts such as Benevolence International, established by his brother-in-law, bin Laden established a new base for mujahideen operations in Sudan to disseminate Islamist philosophy and recruit operatives in Southeast Asia, Africa, Europe, and the US. Bin Laden also invested in business ventures, such as al-Hajira, a construction company that built roads throughout Sudan, and Wadi al-Aqiq, an agricultural corporation that farmed hundreds of thousands of acres of sorghum, gum Arabic, sesame and sunflowers in Sudan's central Gezira province. Bin Laden's operations in Sudan were protected by the powerful Sudanese NIF government figure Hassan al Turabi. While in Sudan, bin Laden married one of Turabi's nieces.

Bin Laden supported the Taliban regime with financial and paramilitary assistance and, in 1997, he moved to Kandahar, the Taliban stronghold.

Bin Laden is suspected of funding the November 1997 Luxor massacre in Egypt conducted by Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, the largest Egyptian militant Islamist group. The Egyptian government convicted bin Laden's colleague, one of the leaders of Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, and sentenced him to death in absentia for the massacre.

Attacks on United States targets
It is believed that bin Laden was involved with the December 29, 1992, bombing of the Gold Mihor Hotel in Aden, Yemen, which killed a Yemeni hotel employee and an Austrian national and seriously injured the Austrian's wife.
In 1998, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, (a leader of Egyptian Islamic Jihad), co-signed a fatwa (religious edict) in the name of the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, declaring:

“ [t]he ruling to kill the Americans and their allies civilians and military - is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem) and the holy mosque (in Makka) from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, 'and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,' and 'fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah'.

In response to the 1998 United States embassy bombings following the fatwa, President Bill Clinton ordered a freeze on assets that could be linked to bin Laden. Clinton also signed an executive order, authorizing bin Laden's arrest or assassination. In August 1998, the U.S. launched an attack using cruise missiles. The attack failed to harm bin Laden but killed 19 other people.


September 11, 2001 attacks

Immediately after the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, U.S. government officials named bin Laden and the al-Qaeda organization as the prime suspects. After the 9/11 attacks, the reward offered by the U.S. government increased to $25 million. The Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association are offering an additional $2 million reward.

The FBI stated that evidence linking Al-Qaeda and bin Laden to the attacks of September 11 is clear and irrefutable.

Bin Laden initially denied, but later admitted involvement in the September 11, 2001 attacks. On September 16, 2001, bin Laden denied any involvement with the attacks by reading a statement which was broadcast by Qatar's Al Jazeera satellite channel: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation." This denial was broadcast on U.S. news networks and worldwide.

In November 2001, U.S. forces recovered a videotape from a destroyed house in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, in which Osama bin Laden is talking to Khaled al-Harbi. In the tape bin Laden admits foreknowledge of the attacks. The tape was broadcast on various news networks on December 13, 2001.

Shortly before the U.S. presidential election in 2004 in a taped statement, bin Laden publicly acknowledged al-Qaeda's involvement in the attacks on the U.S, and admitted his direct link to the attacks. He said that the attacks were carried out because, "We are free and do not accept injustice. We want to restore freedom to our nation." In this video, aired on Al Jazeera on October 30, 2004, bin Laden also stated that he had personally directed the 19 hijackers.

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Yeah, all that evidence and stuff is fine if you wanna get all hung up on things like FACTS and such.

But ALL THE COOL KIDS are saying Bush was responsible, so he must be.......

[That Camera Guy]

Popular Mechanics ran a great article debunking the points the wacko conspiracy theorists were making.

Great reading. I recommend checking it out and using its info against the next tinfoil hat wearing 9/11 truth person you come across.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

[McQueen]

Great article, Thanks for posting. Some people just don't get it.