I have an opening, no tapes in 2 weeks.

[Currentchief]

I posted a job opening at 17 different places, but here we are 2+ weeks later and no tapes.

Not one.

I've had a few sniffs via e-mail, but no packages on my desk. We're a high 60's market, a respected station and have decent equipment. I've posted jobs at least 7 or 8 other times and always had at least 10 resume tapes come in within days.

What gives? I've tried having my photogs contact people at their last station, reviewed posted resumes, reposting jobs to get to the top of the list, all to no avail.

Ideas?

Please don't tell me to pay more. It's never been an issue before in regards to getting initial resume tapes.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[WV24fpspro]

I've heard much the same from chiefs (and others) in all areas of top fifty markets as well. Unfortunatly the issue does turn back to look at the issues of pay and other career related issues. For instance; the shifts one is expected to work; with shift work, lack of weekends and holidays off, etc..

People are beginning to realize that it's not too difficult to find something in a different industry that pays more and offers more, all without the hassle of the television and communications industry.

Look at the amount of people going to (a four year) school for a degree which could be applied towards a career at a news station. The number of people in those majors are decreasing rapidly.

The numbers of people who are remaining in those majors are using degrees such as J&C not for the news industry, but rather for a corporate communications career.

Something will have to give somewhere; and it will end up having to come from the employer in order to properly retain existing quality tallent, as well as find new tallent. Employers will have to start to offer more competitive pay, better benefits, etc.. These types of programs are already in place for the on air staff; and it wouldn't put too much of a dent in ones budget to offer it to the worker bees as well.

[corpvid]

Too bad I Can't move to Florida! I'm looking for work in my area with no luck-nothing available here.

[Baltimore Shooter]

Well said, WV24fpspro! Spot on (as the Brits like to say).

Warren

[Lense_Cap]

Originally posted by WV24fpspro:
Something will have to give somewhere; and it will end up having to come from the employer in order to properly retain existing quality tallent, as well as find new tallent. Employers will have to start to offer more competitive pay, better benefits, etc for the on air staff; and it wouldn't put too much of a dent in ones budget to offer it to the worker bees as well. I'm not so sure WV... I think you're being a little too optimistic. What we're likely to see is more of the rising trend for stations to hire directly out of college (or heaven forbid, highschool) on the cheap and the quality of local news, with the exception of a few regions, continue to deminish. It's been happening for longer than I have been in the business. What will you be doing to attract quality tapes to your desk Currentchief? I'll take a stab in the dark and venture that you will not be able to do anything about it because your hands are tied as far as the budget goes (as are most CPs). So you'll have no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel and hire someone with next to zero experience and train them on the spot.

[SeattleShooter]

I am looking to move asap. So let me send you my tape. Don’t mind me asking, but can I send the tape and résumé to you instead of through HR? PM me your address and you will have one on your desk mid next week. I can also email you my résumé if you would like.

I am not sure if this is a reason for low responces, but what are your thoughts on hurricanes being a factor for people willing to move there?

[Currentchief]

the job is listed on the job postings here on b-roll. the address is listed there.

[Currentchief]

I'm not sure if hurricanes are a factor as I am in the middle of it all and can't sit on the outside looking in.

I think it's safe to say that the recent weather events may have discouraged a few people, but not all. Those four hurricanes were the first ones since Andrew in '93 and Donna in '60. Odds are that we will never get a cluster of hurricanes like that again in our lifetime.

I hear what the rest of you are saying about pay, benefits, shift work, etc. and I wholeheartedly agree with them all. But 4 months ago I had an opening and I got a dozen tapes in 2 weeks. Could an entire population of potential photogs have changed their minds about the profession in 4 months? all of them...?

Look, I know that a photog works lousy hours, makes poor money and gets no respect and the potential talent pool has grown shallower in the past few years. My last hire had no experience, but she came highly reccommended and has worked out great, but in my experience, she's the exception to the rule.

We're market #68 and how big do we have to get before the b-roll consensus is that we can't hire newbies? #65? #55? #45?(newbies are great, but you get my point).

I need to and I want to find an eager, intelligent, 2 years experienced photog with a terrific attitude and I'll be happy. 5 out of my last 6 hires were just that person (#6- my poor hire- is gone) and I need one more to replace him.

My frustration level is quite high and my ND is wondering just what the Hell I'm doing to earn my massive manager's wage.

I'm venting, of course, but I need practical suggestions and solutions to my dilemma, not rhetoric on the deplorable state of the photog career track.

Any useful suggestions would be appreciated!

[micaelb]

I'm in a similar sized market and there are times I don't see tapes for a while then a bunch arrive. I try to keep tabs on a few people I've had contact with who expressed an interest when there wasn't an opening. I've been lucky too with people we've promoted from within. Editors, interns, the competition are all sources.
What is really frustrating is making the hire then getting the flood of good tapes.
If your days are anything like mine you're shooting packages, vo's and weather shots and setting up live shots to earn that massive(??) managers salary. It's hard to find talent with a good work ethic when you have 15 minutes a day to spend on looking.

[Currentchief]

Amen. I spent 6-10 hours in the field most days and I often get asked, "what have you done about (insert problem here)?

I sometimes get a "chief's day" where I get the whole day to get stuff done, but I think I've had four in 19 months.

I need about a day every other week and then I could do things that my photogs really want like tape reviews, consistent ordering of gear, getting stuff fixed, etc.

But, I knew going in it would be like this, so I guess I have no complaint coming.

Lastly when I said I made a massive manager's salary, I should have included one of these: :rolleyes:

[Baltimore Shooter]

Current Chief,
Micaelb has a good idea. What about hiring from within? Are there interns or editors who you've noticed work hard, do good work, are smart and have a stong work ethic who want to become a photog? Any chance of promoting from within? Just a thought.

Warren

[PhotogFromFL]

Currentchief is my chief, and our station doesn't allow interns, and all of our editors want to be in front of the camera or are in training to become producers.

[thru-the-lens]

Is there someone on the floor crew that could make the jump into shooting? That's an option to fill from within. (hopefully you aren't a parkervision station)

I also wonder if the reason you haven't recieved any tapes is because of the time of the year? Maybe no one wants to move to a new station because they have holiday plans. Starting a new job not only makes you the new person on staff and that would automatically take you out of any chance for time off for family during the holiday season.

Remember that Thanksgiving is again in the book this year so that is a negative to consider in the holiday plans.

Then there is also the cost. Consider that moving to a new city would include fees for apartment leases, utilities, cable ect... that is money that taken away for holiday gifts for family ect...

And if there are kids...dealing with enrolling in a new school district, or splitting the family up until the christmas break and moving them then????

Lots of reasons why this might not be a good time to move to a new job. Hopefully you will have better luck soon finding tapes and canidates.

thru-the-lens.

[NoWay]

Here in Minneapolis, one of the supposed Meccas of photogs, newbies are hired when the need arises. Usually for part-time or weekend work, but hey still have to pull the load...sometimes they do, but you get what you pay for. All of the mistakes that you're supposed to make in beginner markets are suddenly in front of an audience that's used to top of the line video and production.

So take what you can get, all that you can look for is potential sometimes, and then cross your fingers that you get someone good.

[Currentchief]

The thing is, this has NEVER happened before. This is my second market as a chief and I have always gotten resume tapes within days of an ad's appearance in both markets.

Time of year didn't matter- tapes still came in. Until recently, none of my photogs had kids. Most aren't married and holiday schedules seemed to matter little. We do pay up to $1,500 moving expenses, which is ok (not great, but ok). the wage is sufficient and benefits are barely there, but no one knew these things before, either.

The floor crew doesn't appear to be an option as most are high schoolers and none seem to be that alert to the world around them anyway.

Why do I have to settle for less? I managed to find experienced photogs for the last 6 openings, why not now? Holidays and hurricanes may account for a small percentage, but I can't believe it would account for all. Reporter tapes still arrive by the dozens on a daily basis and that flood of applications hasn't diminished at all.

[thru-the-lens]

It is good to hear that you are paying moving expenses up $1,500.

I was offering up the floor crew as an option. Sure it would be nice not to settle for less, but it was an option to be considered.

Good luck. If I hear of anybody looking I'll send them your way pronto.

thru-the-lens.

[Currentchief]

Sorry, TTL, I wasn't trying to hammer on you, it's just I'm frustrated at the lack of anything. :confused:

[Shaky & Blue]

I wonder if the hurricanes are more of a discouragement than you realize. When you pay in sunshine, foul weather would be considered a cut in salary.

[WV24fpspro]

Is that a typo or is it for real?

1,500 for moving expenses :eek:

The only people with moving expenses that are less than that are college students or people in the military. That 1,500 figure is a start, but is also depressing.

Just out of curiosity what type of wages (and the limited benefits) were being offered? I've noticed some of the top fifty markets are easily outgunned by the average mall job.

[ October 31, 2004, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: WV24fpspro ]

[C St. SW]

Originally posted by WV24fpspro:

1,500 for movig expenses :eek:

The only people with moving expenses that are less than that are college students or people in the military. That 1,500 figure is a start, but is also depressing.Wanna bet? Try taking any government job, state OR federal. You won't get a dime for relocation in most cases.

[dan bach]

$1,500 would be generous, considering the pittance I've received for moving allowences my past few jobs...

Reporters get the professional move. Photographers usually get squat.

[Trybe One]

i dont live in florida but spent most of the
year covering it...most of are shop,
made a good living in the Sunshine state.
racking up 140-180-200 hrs every 2 weeks there..

o yea, one more thing 1500 hundred sounds good till taxes take a chunk out of it.,.

[Trybe One]

The goverment moves you for a job.
They contract Mayflower for moving.
So if you didnt get moved, while in the military,
or being a civilian working for the government.
You didnt ask..or got the run around to avoid paper work..

[C St. SW]

Originally posted by Trybe One:
The goverment moves you for a job.
They contract Mayflower for moving.
So if you didnt get moved, while in the military,
or being a civilian working for the government.
You didnt ask..or got the run around to avoid paper work.. Wrong again. Look at many if not most federal job postings, you will see the line at the top of the page, big and bold: "relocation expenses not authorized." Seems that HR has this thing about using taxpayer money to move people for jobs. If you are already IN the federal system and they want to move you to another job, you can get relocation, but don't count on it for that first job unless your a political appointee or SES.

Military is all together different. They will pay to relocate you to your assigned post. Private sector HR rules pale in comparison to federal HR rules. There's very little, if any, room for negotiation if you're going after that first GS job.

[LeftEye]

Perhaps the low wage thing is finally becoming a problem for stations looking to put professional video on the air. Just perhaps.

[Baltimore Shooter]

Bingo!

Warren

[PhotogFromFL]

But, the low wage thing (and I haven't revealed what we pay) wasn't an issue the last 6 times (the most recent being 4 months ago) and now, all of a sudden, it is?

I can't accept that as the ONLY reason. I know my people make too little money and I know we've been hit to one degree or another by four hurricanes. But, zero tapes? We are still getting reporter tapes and we haven't posted a new job in 6 months!

I would love to raise everyone's wage by 30%, but that's not likely to happen. What can i do besides?

[PhotogFromFL]

This is currentchief- i forgot to logoff photoginFL. That was my post, not his.

[LeftEye]

Ok, why not try farming the local colleges for a new guy? Maybe you could offer to hold a lighting seminar for the bright eyed and eager?

No offense, but it's pretty easy to deduce what you might pay someone, and I'm embarrased to say I accepted a wage that low when I was starting out. I'm not saying I got into this biz looking to get rich, but I was looking to get comfortable. Suffice it to say it didn't ever happen in local news, I had to go into corperate vid/marketing to make a living. Yeah, it has its negatives too, but I don't worry about bills half as much.
Put yourself in a young candidate's position, why would he want to work for you? Pay aside, after he gets the job is there something to look forward to? A future he can write home about? Or will he be "just a photog" - I've seen a very slim few get out of that category, and that's because they went above a beyond every day. It's too bad the other positions in the newsroom get that respect inherently, while photogs have to "earn it".
This may be a bit off subject, but I believe it's all related. And I don't believe your situation in the middle markets will change until the pay/attitudes do.

[Shootblue]

Originally posted by LeftEye:
A future he can write home about? Or will he be "just a photog" - I've seen a very slim few get out of that category, and that's because they went above a beyond every day. It's too bad the other positions in the newsroom get that respect inherently, while photogs have to "earn it".
That perhaps sums up so much that is wrong...just like camera op is to the tech crew, we are just camera ops to so many people in the newsroom, no respect. How we fix that I dont know...I'll leave that for the smarter crowd.

[Shaky & Blue]

Originally posted by photoginFL:
We are still getting reporter tapes... Yes, but photogs are a LOT smarter than reporters. Besides, reporters will send their tapes anywhere there even might possibly be the tiniest hope of an opening, because they are, in essence, whores.

[tv cam]

Current Chief,
I'm an older guy with experience, currently shooting as an indie for 4 stations in the 50s market. I've been freezing for years, and have applied to a few southern stations, but no success yet! I'm just looking for a good gig in warm weather. I can handle all tape formats and not too crazy about the live truck.
If you or any guys out there might want to hire a guy who is currently not a staff shooter, I'm up
for the job. I dont mind traveling for an interview, and I take orders good, just check with my wife!
tv cam

[Currentchief]

I got three tapes the other day!

Things are looking up. I hope I get more, I love making these choices.

I can always use more tapes. And for those of you who sent me some, this is not to say I didn't like yours, I always look at tapes 2 or three times before deciding. I also ask my photogs to look at the tapes.

There is still time for others.

Thanks for all of your input!

[SeattleShooter]

Its good to hear that things are looking up for you now!

[WV24fpspro]

Although the problem may only be sovled on a temporary basis.

The answer to this isn't exactly rocket science.

In order to obtain a higher quality employee one has to be willing to get the employer to spend the money for the wages and benefits. Otherwise a television news station is likely to have turnover quite similar to a convenience store.

Think of it this way; an employee gets a fifty cent an hour raise; which comes out to the earth shattering amount of just over 1k per year. If a station can't afford something such as that; then they deserve what they get- which is someone who could easily walk off the job to find greener partures in just about any job offer.

Just what everyones objective in life wants to be: To go to college for J&C or photography, and then get a job which has little chance of even being able to payback a student load.

[Currentchief]

I know, I hear you!

But, when I asked the ND for higher wages, I was told no. At least twice.

So...I have to play the hand I was dealt. With some patience, a little luck and a bit of an eye for talent, my staff is better than I found it 19 months ago.

A few of my hires have purchased homes, had babies and settled here for at least a few years. The market I work in is growing up, but management hasn't realized it yet.

It's as if the station and the upper management are teenagers in their awkward years- not really small, but not big either and not sure what it is. Growing more than 25 market sizes in 15 years, it can be hard to keep up with the changes.
This is NOT an excuse, but the reality of my world.

So, I have to attract photogs with a combination of great weather, waterside location and a good station reputation.

Again, these are the cards I was dealt and I have to play them.

[Duffy]

When I'm ready to retire, I'm going to send every chief in Flordia a tape. I hope you don't mind old guys with tons of experience.

[Currentchief]

Duffy,

I've had a few people retiring from northern markets contact me for "easy" jobs to pass the time.

All passed on the offer when they realized it would be 10-12 hour days, running their own live truck, no compensation for missed lunches or breaks, shooting VOs and VOSOTs on their own, no vacation for 6 months, no sick leave for 90 days,
no choice of story, etc. and all for $50,000/yr. less than they were making a month before.

I had one excuse himself to go the bathroom and i never saw him again.

If you want to work here, fine :D , but don't think it'll be a cushy job. Just like you, we work very hard. :mad:

My 2 cents,

CC

[WV24fpspro]

OOOPPS...

May want to attempt to keep that bit of information to yourself (as in); what the government doesn't know won't hurt them or you.

The thing about no compensation for missed lunches or breaks; violates at least four seperate OSHA and federal labor laws, in addition to state laws.

One is allowed to be asked to miss their break or lunch every once in a while, but if it happens more than twice a month it subjects the employer to one of the many violations listed above.

I've seen many an employer get hit by this one; the fine is very severe and automatic and not able to be appealed by any court.

[Currentchief]

There is pay and OT and all of the federally, state and local requirements are strictly followed when lunch or a break is missed, just not the union mandated penalties for a missed lunch.

That really got to one guy.

[NewsMan]

Anyone interested: I am looking for work to begin the first of the year. Looking in Raleigh, Charlotte, G'Boro, Richmond and DC.
My resume is on b-roll (Dave Tate) and you can get a list of current video shot at http://www.battlefieldtourist.com. I cannot provide you with a tape until mid-December when I return to the states.

[ November 12, 2004, 12:35 AM: Message edited by: NewsMan ]

[Gripper]

CurrentCheif-

I am a junior at a college in Texas and I was wondering if it would be possible to send you a tape to critique as I start to develop a reel at school? I am not sure where I want to go or what I want to yet within radio and television, but I do know I want to work in news. Thank you for your help.

-Gripper.

[Gripper]

I'm sorry, I wanted to correct my spelling.

CurrentChief.

I am a junior at a college in Texas and I was wondering if it would be possible to send you a tape to critique as I start to develop a reel at school? I am not sure where I want to go or what I want to yet within radio and television, but I do know I want to work in news. Thank you for your help.

-Gripper.

[Shaky & Blue]

Originally posted by Gripper:
I'm sorry, I wanted to correct my spelling. You can do that without reposting your entire message. Just hit the button above your message that looks like this:

http://b-roll.net/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif

You'll be taken to a page that will allow you to edit your message or delete it entirely and start over. That's one of the advantages of being registered.

[PhotoOp71]

I know about offering a low salary and the extreme working conditions that come along with it in the state of Florida. My station usually goes for the inexpensive photog but we have gotten lucky with the talent that we have gotten. Unfortunately they usually don't stay long.

[ewink]

Right now I'd take minimum wage just to get away from the snow... :P

(well, not min... but lower than most people. lol)

[WHIZkid]

We've been trying to fill a part time positon for months now...
The advertisind and hireing process for a new shooter seems to take well over a month...
Now, I hear some gossip that we have one about to bolt any time now...
Please,, Shoot me now!!!

[rgforester]

Hey CC,

In he early 90's, I moved to Naples to get out of the rat race for awhile. By then I spent 25 years as a photojournalist. But after a few years of not shooting and being able to go where "civilians" couldn't go, I made application at WINK-TV for a staff photog job. The chief, don't recall his name, turned me down flat, saying I didn't have the "right kind" experience for the Ft. Myers market. Right kind of experience? What the He@% does that mean? I was totally blown away, given I had been a Chief Photog for 15 yrs (all in medium size markets), worked in CNN's L.A. Bureau, ABC News stringer, strong production and live work experience plus state and regional news awards. Well, it probably doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why he wouldn't hire me but I am confident my experience could have helped the entire organzation without jeordizing his position.

Oh well, we live and learn.

Rick Forester

[SmlMktChief]

We put out an ad 2 weeks ago, and we also, still don't have any tapes yet. the position will be open the first of April, because our new hire, as of two weeks ago, is giong to the police acadamy. I don't want to hire a newby, just because I don't have the time to train someone, and my only other photog, only has 1 year exp. If anyone wants to move to a small market, where winter is minimal...e-mail me @ dnewbold@cbs7.com. Or just reply to this post.

[ken g]

currentchief,
MY wife and I are fixin yo head your way sometime around April. If you may have something for an older shooter that loves the business, I'd like to talk to you.
I'll shoot and edit all day, and run studio cam at nite just to stay busy!

[Eaglewolf]

smlmktchief

[QUOTE] If anyone wants to move to a small market, where winter is minimal...e-mail me @ dnewbold@cbs7.com. Or just reply to this post. [QUOTE]

This is a great mkt. to live and win lots of awards. Anyone looking to bust from the big city and enjoy a true West Texas lifestyle, this is the place. Good schools, Good people, GREAT MEXICAN FOOD!

[SmlMktChief]

Hey, ken g

My company e-mail blew up and I lost all my mail from the past year. If you want to send a tape here is the address. I don't trust the company e-mail anymore.

David Newbold
KOSA-TV
4101 E. 42nd Ste J-7
Odessa, TX 79762

[Rad]

I haven't gotten a tape in two weeks, generally they pile-up by now. I'm guessing people just don't move as much as they used to.

Rad

[SHOOT4U]

Looking for 1 year or more experience in Roanoke,VA. Market 68. Email me @ thess@wsls.com and let me know if anyone is interested.

[svp]

Two things come to mind.

1. Without video you only have radio.

2. How is one suppose to get hired when nobody will give a guy a chance unless he has at least a year's experience. I've been working in Oklahoma City for a year. I have a bachelor's degree in communications and consider myself very talented with a camera. I've had to work on my days off for the past 4 months with a photog to prove I can do the job. Unfortunetly, their are no positions open at my station. Even with a good resume reel, nobody wants to take a chance on a guy like me, even though I'm not in it for money. I moved here from Ohio and would gladly relocate just for the chance.

[Man on the Street]

Originally posted by svp:
Even with a good resume reel, nobody wants to take a chance on a guy like me, even though I'm not in it for money. I moved here from Ohio and would gladly relocate just for the chance. I'm just guessing, but it sounds like you need to aim for smaller markets. OKC isn't quite a starter market, though I think they are taking them a lot greener than they used to. If you shop that "good resume reel" around some 100+ markets, you should have your start quickly, assuming you really aren't in it for the money and will relocate. Be persistant.

[svp]

Thanks Man on the Street

[DouggieFresh]

SVP,
just a word of advice from a recent college grad. You should join up with TVJobs.com. When I graduated, I sent out tapes to every station that had posted jobs on there for the past 3 months. It took about a month, but I started recieving calls from almost every one I applied to. I've been working in the Ft. Myers/Naples market now for 4 months, and I came here with no experience except an internship, a bit of freelancing, and a trip to NPPA's conference in 2004. However, again I mention, no experience. I may not be as knowledgeable about the business as most of the posters on here, but the jobs are definately out there. I actually got another call 3 weeks ago from one of the tapes I sent out (and that was back in november!) So, i recommend just sending tapes all over to any station you think you might be interested in, someone will definately bite. Good luck!

[Photographer]

SVP.....unless you find someone who will take a chance on you without the year of experience. Look in very small markets. Many times if you show that you are looking to learn the smaller markets will be happy to have you. Or do what the poster above did. That was a great idea. The more tapes you send out the better your chances are.

Good luck.

[ April 26, 2005, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Photographer ]

[Run 'n' Get 'em]

Anyone know of any small markets w/ a big city feel that would take a fairly "green" shooter... I've shot plenty of stuff on plenty of cams (XL1, DVCPro, BetaSX) but not a lot of it is news...

Would be happy to send a tape about anywhere, Beach preferred :D

[Man on the Street]

Originally posted by SpaShooter:
Anyone know of any small markets w/ a big city feel that would take a fairly "green" shooter... I've shot plenty of stuff on plenty of cams (XL1, DVCPro, BetaSX) but not a lot of it is news...

Would be happy to send a tape about anywhere, Beach preferred :D It all depends on the tape and who's looking at it, but some possible first markets near the beach would be: Ft. Myers, FL; Pensacola, FL; Corpus Christi, TX; Charleston, SC; Brunswick, GA;

[ABC Chief]

Have you tried sending postings to colleges in the area. I am in a college town. There never seems to be a shortage of availible candidates. The only problem is finding one that will be self starting after a few weeks, take guidence and retain what they have learned. But they do exist. My additional advice is wait, don't rush to get anyone the right one will come. Contact other chiefs in smaller markets as well and see if they know of someone on their staff that would be a good fit to your shop. I know alot of corporate structured stations pull talent and other positions to the larger market stations when the have a opening. See if a "sister" station in your company has a good shooter for you.

[Run 'n' Get 'em]

Anyone on here a chief/shooter at the wbbh/wzvn duopoly? PM me or post here w/ some contact info and I'll get back to you...

From Florida and would love to get back should there be any openings... a few people at my current place (former water drops) recommended that I check bbh/zvn out

[jajack71]

As a photog under age 40 in Market 70. One of the main complaints is the pay it's like why move from the hot skillet into the fire. I know CP's only possses so much power but, my God please excuse me for wanting to buy a few extra groceries next week. Honestly is very uncool to offer sun dollars and water as pay incentives. Especially when I'm working in the sun for 10 to 12 hours what difference does it make? If the weather is great and I can't afford to take advantage of what Florida has to offer unless it's free? The entire job market is changing. You have people with their 5,000.00 video cameras a G5 computer who are making more money freelancing than working at news station. I have a great CP he took a chance on me I never worked in news before my experience came from freelancing and working in coporate video production. I think some CP are looking for these super spectacular tapes which is fine but, ask yourself how many average tapes have you looked past? As long as a photo has a positive attitude about what he or she is doing and knows how to shoot ,edit and light and has common sense that's all that matters. I had another CP tell me that my material was lacking the kind of news that is shot at their station. The last time I checked shooting video and sound is a basic funtion of our business. (I just venting also.)He never took time to say well maYbe his particular maket does not get the kind of stories that I get in my market. Anyway I hope you get plenty of tapes in the near future but consider a few points that I made.

[ken g]

well saidjajack!

[A Step Above Productions]

Originally posted by SpaShooter:
Anyone on here a chief/shooter at the wbbh/wzvn duopoly? PM me or post here w/ some contact info and I'll get back to you...

From Florida and would love to get back should there be any openings... a few people at my current place (former water drops) recommended that I check bbh/zvn out SpaShooter,

I don't know about BBH/ZVN... but I do know about WINK. We have a couple of positions open. Two in the Naples Bureau (one being mine). If you are trully interested in returning to S.W. Florida I would send a tape NOW!!! to WINK.

[Run 'n' Get 'em]

Originally posted by news-quest:
SpaShooter,

I don't know about BBH/ZVN... but I do know about WINK. We have a couple of positions open. Two in the Naples Bureau (one being mine). If you are trully interested in returning to S.W. Florida I would send a tape NOW!!! to WINK. Was sent priority mail Monday...Should be getting there any day now

[Guy Critique]

Looking for NPPA Workshop graduates who have the attitude to succeed to be the best storytellers in the country.
Must know how to find positive solutions to daily problems, run ENG vans safely, and are only as good as their next story.

See the ad for WGCL CBS 46 TV in Atlana on the b-roll job section for more info!

[ May 20, 2005, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Guy Critique ]

[Bdubs]

Ya well maybe if you would look at some of those "newbies" more often maybe it wouldnt be so hard to find people. Sometimes taking those guys under your wing and helping them out would give you better Karma. I've been trying to find a job as a Phtog for about 3 years now and cant get one anywhere. I have rethought about what rpofession I have been in for 5 years now and thinking another two years and i walk from it without any regrets.