Fake Super Bowl credentials

[Buck]

Seems this guy got away with it.

http://www.uberzine.com/supersodas

[<a crime>]

This type of activity is still a crime. Some states consider counterfieting an "official" credential a felony, especially at an event where the US Secret Service is responsible for security. This was is a very stupid thing to do.

Everyone that applied for a legitimate SB credential had to pass a background check. The only thing that this stunt acheives is to make security proceedures even tougher the next time and we all know what that means, more hours of waiting, even more scrutiny and tougher rules on the sidelines, more harrasement of legitimate media and much, much longer lines at the media gate.

These college pranksters just make it harder for us to do our real jobs.

[Natural Born Stringer]

Nice one.

Reminds me of a line from Men In Black: "Congratulations. You're all we've come to expect from years of government training". Way to go, DHS/USSS. :D

[2000lux]

Where are these guys based? Dallas? I think it would make a good story.

[Special K]

I agree it does make the background checks more difficult and subjects us to more scrutiny, but let's call it like it is. The security folks need to do a better job at major events like that of screening people. Heck, they made credentials where the NFL letters on the logo were backwards.

Of course, this could be a hoax. The bulletin board at the bottom did call one person a photoshop expert.

[ewink]

Um, not to be a kill joy, but this is essentually 'theft of services'.

You PAY to watch an NFL game from within the stadium. If you do so without permission and without paying, it's theft of services.

That said, good show ol' chaps!

[Natural Born Stringer]

Originally posted by ewink:

You PAY to watch an NFL game from within the stadium. If you do so without permission and without paying, it's theft of services.Which is really funny because they've basically committed grand larceny, trespassing and fraud - then, even though they are smart enough to forge the necessary ID badges to get in, they stupidly brag about it on the internet, with big, easy to identify PICTURES of themselves. Wile E. Coyote - Supergenius!

I'm sure they will be the first to cry foul when (not if, but when) they get sued by the NFL and arrested (or at the very least lengthfully detained) by the FBI when in reality, they have only their own egos to blame for getting caught, just like so many other hackers you hear about in the news. Technical genius meets common sense lackwit, with predictable results. We've all seen it a million times.

I'm just glad it was just some kids having fun instead of what it could have been. Someone else could have just as easily gotten in with far more sinister intentions. Sure makes you feel safe, huh? :eek:

[mattyboy]

it is kind of scary to know that these three guys could put this together in sucha short period of time. man it does make you think what could happen if some nut job wants to get into an event and blow the thing up.

[<hoaxers>]

Apparently it was a hoax (or they read these posts an realized they are in deep kimshe). Click on the link...they took it down.

[Anton Saur]

Originally posted by &lt;hoaxers&gt;:
Apparently it was a hoax (or they read these posts an realized they are in deep kimshe). Click on the link...they took it down. could be they couldn't afford the extra bandwidth all the publicity has gotten them too.

[<wow>]

now it just a picture and a email addy, lol

[<they're still there>]

comming soon to a live shot near dallas
http://www.uberzine.com/random.asp
They must have felt the sword of Damocles (NFL) hanging above their heads and pulled the Super Bowl page.

[<hacking away on TV>]

http://www.digitaldfw.com/uberzine/hax.asp

[WV24fpspro]

Don't believe that anything about this story was a hoax. The boys involved probably got a bit scared and pulled the plug. The group will face both criminal and civil changes when caught.

Unless they have any type of previous records they'll most likely walk with a type of probation. In order to get this they might have to subject themselves to all kinds of property searches.

The group will face civil suits from many parties, and after all has gone though the courts its likely that any of the groups participants will have any assets of any kind for at least the next ten years.

[Shaky & Blue]

Originally posted by Natural Born Stringer:
I'm just glad it was just some kids having fun instead of what it could have been. Someone else could have just as easily gotten in with far more sinister intentions. Sure makes you feel safe, huh? :eek: I don't feel unsafe. It's not like they got in with guns and bombs. They just got themselves in.

Besides, if someone had sinister intentions, all he'd have to do to get in is buy tickets.

[2000lux]

True, but tickets don't generally get you in to the press conferences or on to the field.

Did any one save or tape the site? I've seen people save sites that weren't theirs on to their computers before. If you did, please e-mail me.

[Lensmith]

Originally posted by WV24fpspro:
Don't believe that anything about this story was a hoax. The boys involved probably got a bit scared and pulled the plug. The group will face both criminal and civil changes when caught.

Unless they have any type of previous records they'll most likely walk with a type of probation. In order to get this they might have to subject themselves to all kinds of property searches.

The group will face civil suits from many parties, and after all has gone though the courts its likely that any of the groups participants will have any assets of any kind for at least the next ten years. For some reason I thought they were British, based in Dallas. If they're still there, they may have problems.Just a thought, your prediction only holds true in a US court. I thought these folks were Brits. No one is going to waste time chasing them back to England and putting them on trial over their for a "non event".

At best they might get hassled if they come back to the states or have their names added to some watch list...which might cause them problems in the future, but I don't see any realistic chance of them setting foot in a US courtroom.

If they're Americans, ignore my ramblings.

I tried to check the site to see if they were Brits but...

[ February 16, 2005, 09:33 AM: Message edited by: Lensmith ]

[Anton Saur]

Originally posted by WV24fpspro:

The group will face civil suits from many parties, and after all has gone though the courts its likely that any of the groups participants will have any assets of any kind for at least the next ten years. What civil suits could they get?

[<in da nile>]

check out the latest on their original site. imho its really pretty obvious they're trying to duck and c y a. i was in jax on game day and their pix of certain scenes looked pretty damn authentic, not like photoshop composites of them pasted in the shots. imho, too seamless looking. light, edges and shadows were always too perfect to be photoshop. now they're "deeee nyeing" the whole thing. if it were a photoshop hoax they would have nothing to fear and kept the site up for all to see. my guess is that someone had a "come to Jesus" phone conversation with them about the implications of what could happen to them if they really did what they showed.

[<big suit>]

Originally posted by Anton Saur:
[QUOTE]What civil suits could they get? Besides state and or federal criminal charges,
The NFL could sue them for civil damages since it was their event that they crashed.

[freedom]

Am I missing something? The website talks about fakes like the shot of the airplane going into the building. The shot of the guy at the superbowl looks fake. There is only one shadow from his nose and hat and in a stadium like that there would be many. There is no rimlight from the big lights in the shot behind him. They faked this shot and are passing it around for some kind of effect. If they really did get in, there would be security camera footage of them and they'd be arrested by now.

[<the point>]

the SB photo they have on their website now IS a FAKE composite.

the ones they pulled off their site two days ago probably were not. what's up there now is just a cya. if the feds (SS) already have a copy of their originals and those kids destroyed the original digitals of a what they purported to do they could be in a heap of even more trouble.

see what the snappers are saying http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=14558

[Natural Born Stringer]

Originally posted by Shaky & Blue:
[QUOTE]
Besides, if someone had sinister intentions, all he'd have to do to get in is buy tickets. Yes, but you can't even take in a fanny pack most places as a ticket holder. With a media pass, you can haul in big giant truckloads of stuff and it will maybe get a cursory glance if that. All you'd have to do is make it LOOK legit, i.e. betacam camera with guts removed and replaced with C4, or a dirty bomb hidden in a dub deck... these can usually be had for a few hundred bucks on Ebay for a non working "parts only" unit. The media guys are treated like VIP's at events like the SuperBowl, as you could see from the site's pics, they have carte blanche to go pretty much wherever they want - I seriously doubt they are searched at all.

[Natural Born Stringer]

BTW, looks like it's already hit the fan with the NFL - that's probably the reason the site is gone. I recommend setting a google news alert on "Superbowl Hax" for the latest developments - I'm sure the story of their inevitable arrests and lawsuits will come soon.

http://www.wtev.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7AC4186B-8251-4F01-AC7F-F3FEBED0BAD1

[Jax]

Originally posted by &lt;big suit&gt;:
quote: Originally posted by Anton Saur:
[QUOTE]What civil suits could they get? Besides state and or federal criminal charges,
The NFL could sue them for civil damages since it was their event that they crashed. Ya'll are going crazy with this lawsuit nonsense... In a civil suit, you have to prove damages. The NFL is going to be very hard pressed to do that.

As for the charge of grand larceny as mentioned above? What'd they steal, a boat?

[WV24fpspro]

Let me remodify my earlier posting...

If indeed this did happen to be real as opposed to being a hoax...

If they were from the UK, they still might face some penalties such as the following: Having the United States removed from their passport- or in other words they would never be permitted to travel to here as a destination or even a stop-ever until the matter would be resolved. I've actually indirectly witnessed this happen to someone and it can remin in effect indefinately.

The US could also take action to restrict them from doing business from anyone within the US. Usually this is reserved for much larger offenders, but there have been exceptions. There have been examples of people losing this (and the above mentioned passport issue) for failure to pay child support while residing or working overseas.

[WV24fpspro]

Let me add; you don't have to prove damages in some types of civil cuits. An example: Pain and suffering type of verdict. How does one prove pain and suffering and what it is worth.

I'm sure the lawfirms that represent the NFL would have little difficulty finding numerous civil changes to file; whether it was faked or not. Just attempting to defend these types of charges would make the defendant take out a second and third mortgage on anything they own- even before it went to court.

BTW- civil court isn't about proof, its about tipping the balance.

[ February 17, 2005, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: WV24fpspro ]

[Anton Saur]

Originally posted by WV24fpspro:
Let me add; you don't have to prove damages in some types of civil cuits. An example: Pain and suffering type of verdict. How does one prove pain and suffering and what it is worth.

I'm sure the lawfirms that represent the NFL would have little difficulty finding numerous civil changes to file; whether it was faked or not. Just attempting to defend these types of charges would make the defendant take out a second and third mortgage on anything they own- even before it went to court.

BTW- civil court isn't about proof, its about tipping the balance. Thanks. That was the answer I was looking for.

[shunt]

ck out the storys dopey foxnews did on us...fun times indeed!!!!

http://www.wtev.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=DADE4189-AA61-42E5-904A-A546F6068F23

video: http://www.myemospace.com/supersodas/