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Shootblue
08-02-2004, 10:39 PM
I had read a thread a while back, and it peaked my interest in part time jobs that pay well. I'm not talking about working at McDonalds on the weekends, Im talking something with a little more of an base in being an entrepreneur. Some ideas that I remember were taking photos of home for realtor's websites and doing virus removal on PC's. What other ideas do you all have?
<CNNDCGUY>
08-02-2004, 10:49 PM
I work for CNN in DC. I still have contact with some of my old friends. I do work with the Nets as a part-time guy. Under the radar of CNN. Maybe you could find a gig like that! They are always looking for people to work daily.
<ALSO LOOKIN>
08-02-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by <CNNDCGUY>:
I work for CNN in DC. I still have contact with some of my old friends. I do work with the Nets as a part-time guy. Under the radar of CNN. Maybe you could find a gig like that! They are always looking for people to work daily. Know who to speak to to get in here in NY?
Shootblue
08-03-2004, 12:37 AM
Does the CNN saga have to get on every single thread on here... :mad:
<Joey>
08-03-2004, 12:50 AM
This is a copy and paste of the same question you posted on MEDIALINE. Shame on you. That is really a faux pas.
Shootblue
08-03-2004, 02:23 AM
I am looking for a variety of responses, so I posted both places. This is not the first time someone has done this. At least I had the balls to register. I'll put a bottle of No More Tears on my X-mas list for you.
<CNNDCGUY>
08-04-2004, 09:58 AM
You know...I was just trying to help. Never mind. Go to McD's...I think Burger King is also looking.
cinehead
08-04-2004, 11:53 AM
CNNDCGUY....
I think Shootblue was responding to "Joey".
<Joey>
08-04-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Cinehead:
CNNDCGUY....
I think Shootblue was responding to "Joey". No, he was responding to the "CNN saga" comment made by ShiitBlue.
<To CNN DC guy>
08-04-2004, 02:47 PM
Don't you realize that if you're STAFF for a media outlet you CANNOT work for other media outlets. That is called a conflict of interest. Smart move posting that on here. The bosses do read this board you dummy.
<CNNDCGUY>
08-04-2004, 03:09 PM
No they don't. And they don't care.
Sore Shoulder
08-04-2004, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by <To CNN DC guy>:
Don't you realize that if you're STAFF for a media outlet you CANNOT work for other media outlets. That is called a conflict of interest. Smart move posting that on here. The bosses do read this board you dummy. Actually that's not true. Most stations/outlets say you can't work for the direct compotition. While working for an ABC station I worked part-time for a PBS. I went accross the street to CBS and still worked for PBS. I even got piece work at PBS for some of my ABC/CBS co-workers. All the stations knew what I was doing, no one cared.
Shaky & Blue
08-04-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Sore Shoulder:
Most stations/outlets say you can't work for the direct compotition. I wouldn't count on your definition of "direct competition." I worked for a station that considered radio stations and newspapers to be their direct competitors. Why? Because with shrinking advertising budgets, they saw a direct competition with those other advertising outlets to get the biggest chunk (or all) of what was left of their clients advertising funds.
They also considered production companies to be competitors, because they had their own production unit for local commercials. They figured that working for a local production company was the same as competing with them for production business.
I'm not saying not to work for other folks, but you may want to make sure you carefully read your company's policy on it, and don't be surprised if your ND hassles you about it, or if you have problems when a new management team comes in and demands your undivided loyalty.
<Crew chief>
08-04-2004, 07:55 PM
I would also say that if you work in news you got to expect that you could get called in to cover breaking news. If you work for another station, or even McDonalds, the conflict exists in that you may not be able to get in to do your regular job. Do you think your ND would care then?
<burger flipper>
08-04-2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by <Crew chief>:
I would also say that if you work in news you got to expect that you could get called in to cover breaking news. If you work for another station, or even McDonalds, the conflict exists in that you may not be able to get in to do your regular job. Do you think your ND would care then? If you're not on call they can't force you to work...what if you were drunk, sick, on meds? They can't stop you from working unless you have it in a written contract.
If they'd pay photographers what they deserve, we wouldn't have to work on the side.
Sore Shoulder
08-04-2004, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Shaky & Blue:
quote: Originally posted by Sore Shoulder:
Most stations/outlets say you can't work for the direct compotition.
I wouldn't count on your definition of "direct competition." Well, Shaky, I did say it was a PBS station and they have no commercials.
You did bring up a good point though about checking the policy. Or even ask your ND or GM (whomever you get along with better).
I'd ment to put the checking part in, but I had to go work.
Work always gets in the way of fun. :P (Maybe that'll be my new tag line.)
Sound N Video
08-05-2004, 03:59 AM
Hey guys. I know that I'm not exactly in the profession yet, so some of you might disagree entirely with me or even brush me off competely. It's cool though, but I would think that there is a big difference between working with CNN and the Nets and working with a TV station and radio or newspaper. TV is in direct competition with the other mediums and other stations, but how is network news really in competition with sports?
As for the part time stuff, I would suggest maybe doing some weddings or other events. Get yourself some editing equipment (if you dont have it), and you are pretty well set. Or talk to athletic directors at schools and see if the different teams would be interested in having their games taped or highlight videos made. I'm doing both of those things. They couldn't possibly be called network competition.
That's what I have to say. Thanks for listening.
<Sports Shooter>
08-05-2004, 08:37 AM
Shootblue, you might take a look at shooting sports photos for PlayerPhotos.
http://www.playerphotos.com/INFO/
If you've got a digital SLR it's not that much different than shooting for TV -- but it pays better. You take the photos and PlayerPhotos does all the printing, selling, and shipping.
And you can shoot when and where you want, so it will never conflict with your day job.
http://www.playerphotos.com
Anton Saur
08-05-2004, 09:28 AM
...or you can try spamming on message boards.
Tippster
08-05-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Sound N Video:
...TV is in direct competition with the other mediums and other stations, but how is network news really in competition with sports...Sports? CNN? Bwaaahhhaaaahhhaaaaa.... Oh wait, you're a student studying media. That's kinda sad.
Originally posted by <CNNDCGUY>:
No they don't. And they don't care.I can personally verify that you're wrong... and you're wrong. They may not POST on here, but I've been contacted by two managers at CNN regarding posts on this board when the bashing was in full swing. Don't worry, I didn't sell any one out - they just thanked me for editing/erasing threads and posts that were merely personal attacks on them and others.
Keep that in mind. Be careful what you post, because a lot more people than the 2000 registered users read these boards daily.
Sound N Video
08-05-2004, 03:13 PM
Oh wait, you're a student studying media. That's kinda sad.
So I'm studying media, whats so sad about that???
Tippster
08-05-2004, 04:42 PM
Not that you're a student, but that you think CNN = Sports... or did I miss something? It could happen, you know. I am a natural blonde... ;)
Sound N Video
08-05-2004, 07:30 PM
If you misunderstood that's fine. I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought CNN and sports were the same, I was saying that I don't think the two are in direct competition with each other. I have brown hair and still have my own blonde moments.
BluesCam
08-08-2004, 11:12 AM
Back to making money part time.
I'm starting to get a reasonable amount of work putting videos on CD and DVD for companies (not consumers, they want to pay next to nothing). Then I usually make copies. If their video has "issues", I offer to correct them if I can.
Some clients also want you to pull video stills for use on the web or in print. Since video is only 72 dpi, it has limited print applications, but it can be used for certain things.
So, if you have an edit suite and DVD/CD burner, you can get the back side work of many projects. That will then, hopefully, lead to getting their next video project.
Tazam77
08-08-2004, 06:56 PM
A few Topics ago I remember someone saying something about recording Court or Lawyer Depositions. Using your own gear obviously. Seems like that could pay well??
I have worked for a cable access stations on the side. The stations that citizens put a show on that has no lights, uses the camera microphone and looks like it's a fifth generation copy. You get it? :)
They need people to do graphics, editing and shooting board meetings.
CNN as fare as I know don't care as long as you do it on your own time.
shootist
08-09-2004, 11:46 AM
well...i lucked/networked into a pretty good gig.
i've talked about it here before but...
i had done freelance camera for sports productions over the years but never had the amount of open time to do it on a regular basis...say no a few times and you stop getting called.
but when heinz field opened here in 2001 i approached the scoreboard management about running camera. i could commit to 10 games a year on the weekends and since it wasn't broadcast...there would be no conflict of interest. they have a full production staff with 5 cameras...replays...commercials...really a mini-broadcast except only on the scoreboard and on in-house monitors. so i've been on the sideline for gameday sundays for the past three years and the upcoming one.
well...that begat the same job for Pitt football.
so that's 16 dates.
then Pitt opened the petersen events center for basketball and they called again...there's 15 more dates...
then the women's team wanted into the act...there's another bunch...
then heinz field stretches its marketing wings...charity events/auctions where video is needed...psa shoots...i shot an open-air 8 fight boxing card for the jumbotron saturday night.
and the steelers have gotten into more programming...
coach's show...kids' show...tons of specials...
but...THESE i had to turn down because they air on other stations in the market. probably not a big deal...and maybe i could fight it...on a wording technicality (nuf sed) in our union contract concerning conflicts of interest...
but why risk the golden goose.
the extras i've listed only come to about $10K-$15K a year...but that helps...and it's fun as hell...
and if i keep up the connections (and the investments keep heading where they are)...i may be able to "retire" in a few years and keep these gigs as something fun and profitable.
[ August 09, 2004, 10:47 AM: Message edited by: shootist ]
<chickenNoodelNewsGuy>
08-10-2004, 09:40 AM
Ya...Tip...I can't see anyone from CNN calling. Its was one of the old guys looking to get someone canned, Or one of the new guys doing the same thing. Everyone there is out to make themselves look good.
CNN is not going to stop anything. They just want everyone happy. And if they can't do it they will let them find a way to make themselves smile. That's the great thing about what happen here. They lost there balls. They won't do a thing to anyone right now. And when they finally do??? Most of the guys will be gone on there own.
Who cares? WHO REALLY CARES! CNN is that bully who talks a big game. But dose nothing to back it.
This page is to help get a part time job for some of the younger guys. This biz is not the greatest paying. I can say I do it for the job. Not the money. Why else would I be at CNN?
Just look for the little extra gigs. Many shop will let you freelance. NBC shops are great...If your with one of them. Check with your ND or chief about things coming up. Networks are always looking for good people to do some b-roll. Shows are also looking for things to. Just tell them your looking for extra shoots...
And as many have said...You can't do it...Conflict of interest. Many stations will let you. All you gotta do is ASK!
<take my advise>
12-01-2004, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by <Sports Shooter>:
Shootblue, you might take a look at shooting sports photos for PlayerPhotos.
http://www.playerphotos.com/INFO/
If you've got a digital SLR it's not that much different than shooting for TV -- but it pays better. You take the photos and PlayerPhotos does all the printing, selling, and shipping.
And you can shoot when and where you want, so it will never conflict with your day job.
http://www.playerphotos.com You do the work they take the money. Stay away!!!
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